The Findings Introduction
Findings are something that both David and I never thought or knew existed,
and although neither of us could have ever even
imagined that one day we would be compiling them, the unthinkable has happened.
following is the spelling out of a
situation that exists with Sai Baba. Sadly, it is extremely negative,
and will possibly shock and distress you greatly as it did us, when we found
ourselves in the incredible position of being presented with information
we could not ignore. Once David accepted that something was very, very
wrong, he began his own research. He has been very thorough, meanwhile hoping
and praying every moment that the things he was uncovering were untrue. These
findings are the last thing we both would ever have wanted.
they exist. We ask only that
you read them all before forming any judgement.
from our separate personal experiences, there are also included experiences of
others, chosen from many such, which are an integral part of unveiling this
huge, illusory global scam - the biggest hoax in the God business. A veritable
mountain of information is now available, far more than I can possibly place
before you. My task is to report the findings I do offer accurately, while
presenting a cross section of untenable behaviour, lies uncovered and magic
exposed. David has spent long hours and many months, talking to people all over
the world, whilst unravelling this tangled skein of years of deceit accumulated
around the said ‘divinity incarnate’, but he is not alone in this.
Courageous people on every continent are banding together to expose the
monumental spiritual fraud which has been perpetrated for the personal gain of a
select group, headed by Sai Baba.
people of every rank and file who have also found what lies behind the facade -
including ex-students of the Sai colleges, judges, doctors, government ministers
in Europe, the Americas, Australia and beyond - are in agreement that it is now
time to share their findings. There are hundreds of personal accounts which tear
the veil from the ‘avatar’. I give only a few. Due to verbosity from some of
the contributors, I have edited the information, but not altered its context.
Contributors have given permission to be quoted and identified. The accounts
that follow are merely a fraction of those available, all describing a situation
that has been functional for many years. This is an opportunity to become aware
of it, thus moving into a position enabling
informed choice, rather than one coming from ignorance.
begin with my personal revelations. Those who read David’s and my books
(written before our discoveries and since removed from sale by us), know our
history. How devoted we were to Sai Baba, to the point of each marrying the
other, even though we were strangers from opposite sides of the world. How we
travelled the world speaking of the wonder of him.
what happened to change everything?
the dark side of Sai Baba began to be revealed to David, at first I refused to
listen, unable to bear hearing anything negative about my beloved ‘avatar of
the age’. This unhappy state of affairs continued for six months, until on our
next visit to India, I had my own validation of David’s findings.
Can you imagine how it felt as I began to see beyond the veil? For years
I had enjoyed the privilege of being called to the interview room and had spent
every moment there, focused only on Swami’s face; until David suggested that I
shift my attention to his hands. Watching rings, watches and other trinkets
being palmed, or pulled out from the side of chair cushions, and seeing vibhuti
tablets held between fingers before being crushed and ‘manifest’ was a
horrifying revelation, a personal catastrophe for me. I had given up my life, my
marriage, husband, children, home, career and homeland because of my love for
Sai Baba - only to find trickery at the epicenter of all I held dear.
subsequent interviews, increasingly aghast as I watched the same things happen
again and again, I kept silently pleading ‘Why? Why do it ??’ This
illusionist activity totally destroyed my trust in one
whom I expected to practise the truth he preached. But magician’s tricks were
the very least of it. As time passed, and people began sharing their own
experiences and findings with us, my world of divine-guru centred spirituality
came crashing down.
still at the ashram, the worst thing for me - as a mother of sons - occurred
when a young man, a college student, came to our room, to plead with David. ‘Please
Sir, do something to stop him sexually abusing us’ (!). These sons of
devotees, unable to bear their untenable position of being unwilling
participants in a paedophile situation any longer, yet unable to share this with
their parents because they would be disbelieved, placed their trust in David; a
trust which had built over his five years as a visiting professor of music to
the Sai college.
that night the same young man returned to our room in great distress, to implore
David not to reveal his name, saying that he feared expulsion from the college,
and even worse than that, for his personal safety, if it were to be found out
that he had spoken of these things. David was able to reassure him that he
didn’t know his name, therefore could not, and would not, ever identify him.
But this interaction and shocking revelation was merely the tip of an iceberg of
sickening information, an iceberg that was to batter then sink our years of
increasingly cognisant of Sai Baba’s sexual activity involving violation of
basic human rights with the children (as young as seven years old) under his
care, and the growing list of one deceit after another in activities stemming
from him, brought awareness of the depth of our own emotional investment.
Awareness also, of the devastation these discoveries wrought in us. We were
placed in an untenable situation; unable to risk creating similar chaos in other
spiritual seekers of like investment. The only course was to say little and move
away, which caused a furore of angry and untrue rumours about us to proliferate.
year, David felt it appropriate to share his findings when personally
questioned, but the dilemma of whether to speak or not tested me sorely. I felt
keenly the responsibility of holding this negative knowledge; recognising that
silence made me part of the conspiracy, but kept
praying that given time, somehow, all of it would be satisfactorily
explained away. It was not to be.
the past eighteen months we have become privy to so many serious, and horrific
allegations, and so much damning information sent from disillusioned ex-devotees
from all over the world (in particular, from ex-students of Sai Baba’s male
colleges) which supported our own findings, that it is now impossible to remain
editor of a magazine that has as its mandate the seeking of truth, I have no
option but to fulfil my responsibility to that mandate.
My decision to do so, follows much personal anguish, and earnest prayer, and I
have been given the necessary support and courage by my inner guidance and
outer, true friends.
is not the doctrine of Sai Baba that is being scrutinised, but his practices
within it - not the message, but the messenger. His message is for the most
part, one of universal verities, even though his teachings have been found to
have many contradictions, misquotes and proven anomalies.
allegations I have gathered to record here, are in regard to the global scam he
perpetrates. His chicanery, illusion, fraud, embezzlement, implication with
murders, ongoing paedophile activities and the almost impenetrable fortress of
lies creating his ‘divinity’. The weight of detailed descriptive testimony
regarding his participation in sexual activity with willing - and unwilling
partners (both students and visiting foreigners), discounting the widely
distributed justification of ‘kundalini raising’. The super speciality
hospital and water project being shown to be paper tigers, with apparent
embezzlement of money, organ theft and unfulfilled hydration promises.
are known investigations at governmental level world wide. The Sai school has
been closed in Sweden. A veritable volcano is about to erupt, due to the
disquiet of many, many people. The Internet has had a major role in this. The
mass of experience and evidence being presented there is hard, thrusting, knife
edged; and backed by courageous ex-devotees prepared to put their names to such
statements for the good of all. David has personally contacted many of the
contributors, and listened as they verbally verified and further described their
there is no way this letter can be gently worded.
truth that THIS SITUATION EXISTS will stand. It will stand, whether it is
believed or not.
fully appreciate the grief and awful sense of loss reading these revelations may
bring to you. David and I have experienced it and we know how terrible it can
be. I send you my love and empathy.
: UNITED KINGDOM
: PERSONAL EXPERIENCES
have written this because so many rumours (often completely untrue) have spread
about Faye and myself, as to why we moved away from Sai Baba. I know that what
you are going to read here may cause you deep distress. The situation I am about
to reveal, is certainly not something we could ever have imagined possible.
only ask you to read it all, while accepting that these are my personal
experiences. I share with you my truth. No more, no less.
have been many sleepless nights as I grappled with the task of
what to do and how to cope with this indisputable factual information, in
the light of my responsibility to the many, many people who read my books and
heard me speak.
following findings are a result of my
heart-aching research, over a period of three years’
darshan, Sai Baba carries vibhuti in tablet form between the third and fourth
fingers of his right hand, with spare tablets in the hand holding up his robe.
He crushes a tablet when required, and transfers tablets during the taking of
letters. I have watched this happen innumerable times. Once on the mandir porch
he dropped a tablet in front of me, and told a member of the Trust to “Eat it
can be clearly seen on many videos, if slowed down to frame-by-frame viewing,
including in our wedding day interview video, used at the beginning of
“God lives in India” This
video has been removed from sale by the Trust.
television, in it’s programme ’60 MINUTES’ (their equivalent of
‘PANORAMA’) showed how these
‘B grade’ conjuring tricks are done.
tablets explain why vibhuti distribution runs out in the interview room before
everyone has had some.
powder vibhuti is produced by roasting cow dung with sandal wood, and
manufactured vibhuti bought elsewhere, is then double sieved by ladies of the
ashram seva dal, before being packaged for interview room distribution.
of vibhuti on open wounds consistently causes infection in them; a fact
commented by Faye to me when she was called to deal with people having these
infections in the ashram.
are worthless trinkets. Some are bought in Puttaparthi village, but mainly they
come from Bangalore and Hyderabad. I made it my business to meet one of the
jewellers concerned and have this information verified.
was told by Sai Baba and also by members of his inner circle, that my
‘materialised’ ring with it’s huge stone was a sixty-four faceted diamond
of great commercial value. After leaving the ashram in December 1998, I damaged
one of the clasps on the ring and took it to a jeweller in southern India, many
hundreds of kilometers away. This stranger immediately recognised it as a ‘Sai
Baba’ ring. He told me that the metal it was made of was not gold, also that
the stone was a valueless zircon, and under it there was a piece of silver paper
to make the zircon glitter, which was why the back of the ring was solid. He
informed me that these hard backed rings are especially made for Sai Baba. As he
took the stone out to repair the damaged clasp, sure enough, a piece of silver
paper fell out, and the stone thus revealed was seen to be a zircon.
then Sai organisation co-ordinator of Ireland was with Faye and me at the time,
and another lady who had a Baba ring in which a face (attributed to Baba because
of the black head of hair round a small ‘face’), could be seen. The jeweller
showed us how these are made. A piece of coloured glass has a small piece of
silver paper behind it so that at certain angles it reflects the colour of
one’s own face. This is surrounded by a circular ring of black enamel to give
the impression of hair. He lifted the stone out of the ring and proved this
also, was so. The Irish co-ordinator took photos of the rings. On his return to
Ireland, he resigned and left the organisation.
Sai Baba decides to give someone a robe in the interview room, he does so as a
cover to get further trinkets from his store in the back room. More than a few
times Faye and I have heard the sound of a drawer being opened and the tinkle of
metallic things being moved. He returns with them hidden under the robe (and we
have watched him transferring trinkets from under the robe on his lap to his
right hand - it’s just so obvious when you look) before waving his hand while
faking a materialisation. His velvet chair contains objects hidden in the sides.
We have seen them there and then observed his sleight of hand as he brings them
out of hiding.
well before I was aware of these things, I began to have some doubts about the
authenticity of Sai Baba’s claims of divine manifestation. During my second
interview, one of the first things I noticed which bothered me was that someone
asked him to repair a broken chain on a japamala, and another had lost a stone
from a ring. He did nothing at the time, but said “No, no, I will change for
new one tomorrow”. I found this
very perplexing. Why, if he could create anything at will, which is what I had
been told, did he not blow on these things and repair them then? I now know why.
have not seen him do a genuine healing on anybody in all my time of being close
to him, and having had innumerable interviews. I have seen him tell people to
stand up, and get out of wheel chairs, but the effect is not lasting. He
generally ignores the sick and frail ones, giving out as reason, their karma.
Australian ‘pink twins’ continue to use wheel chairs, in spite of Sai
Baba’s claims of healing them and their claims of being healed. A sad case for
me is Maynard Ferguson. Over three years of deterioration in his hearing; during
several interviews with him and his wife, he, his wife and myself asked -
pleaded with Swami, to heal him. Every time, he promised to do so, but now
Maynard is very deaf and has to rely on two powerful hearing aids to help him.
As a fellow musician I know what this must mean to him in his heart.
Faye and I had an interview in the company of an elderly, rather frail Indian
gentleman who used to sit on the verandah near me. He asked Sai Baba for help
for his failing health. Swami, behind his back shrugged his shoulders at us,
saying in what we both thought was a rather an unfeeling aside
‘And what can I do? Cancer. Too far gone, too far gone.’
has had her own experience of him giving health advice she trustingly followed,
which nearly caused permanent damage to her, before she at last resorted to
western medical treatment for her complaint.
German co-ordinator whom I visited in the super speciality hospital after he’d
had a stroke, was eventually taken back to the verandah, but Swami did not heal
him. The elderly man has gone back to Germany, and some two years later is
I believe any healing
claimed by Sai Baba is in fact, a personal inner healing activated by the person
himself or herself.
mandir ceiling is now covered in gold leaf. I was shown a piece of this gold
leaf which had fallen from the ceiling. I ask myself, ‘Why, in a country of
such appalling poverty, does he allow this escalating show of opulence to occur?
The mandir at my last count had one hundred and sixty-seven chandeliers instead
of the original thirty-six. What on earth for? Sai Baba now has several luxury
cars supposedly ‘gifted’ by rich devotees. Why is more than one necessary?
This is reminiscent of other cult leaders such as Rajneesh.
know Sai Baba doesn’t live only on rice and chappattis as he claims. His
evening meal consists of six to eight different dishes prepared for him every
night, and Faye and I have shared the ‘left overs’ several times, having
gone with someone to collect the remains of the meal from his rooms. He claimed
to Faye that he ‘Drinks no tea, no coffee. Only hot water’ - yet has drunk
coffee with me.
the preparation of the 1997 Christmas Day students’ programme, I was in
interview with the students, and we were discussing with Swami, the music and
story of Jesus’ birth which the boys were going to present.
When ‘We Three Kings from Orient
are...’ was mentioned, Sai Baba directed that this song not be sung,
saying ‘No, no, no! There were no kings. They did not exist.’ Yet in his
January 1996 discourse he said ‘When Christ was born, three kings came to see
is claimed by a few people that different lights can be seen around Sai Baba.
has an aura, which one can learn to see. There is a book by Mark Smith for
example, called ‘Auras - See them in 60
Seconds’. The existence of this light does not confirm divinity. There’s
only been a handful of people around the world who claim to have seen Sai
Baba’s aura. Anyone who has made this claim to me, has been an ardent devotee.
have been shown photographs with unrecognisable light shapes on them, and been
told by the presenter that these represent Sai Baba, Krisha, Gopis and others.
What would be the point of divinity appearing in this indistinguishable way? And
what proof can it be of the said divinity? According to Kodak laboratories,
light emissions on photographs are caused by intermittent camera malfunction
and/or film idiosyncrasy, and the most common emission colours are orange and
The Super Speciality Hospital
know that one wing has never been opened, supposedly through lack of funds.
we are told that just one of
the many donations given for the building
49,000,000.00 (forty-nine million
converts to approximately ST£ 30,000,000.00 (thirty million pounds
of many other large benefactors are listed in the hospital reception area,
making the funds donated for this complex absolutely mind boggling.
relative terms money can buy five times in India what it can here.
question what happens to these huge amounts of donated money.
doctor I sat near on the mandir porch, who works in this hospital, told me never
to let anyone I cared about go there as the sanitation is disgusting and the
lack of aseptic technique, appalling. This allegation has been repeated numerous
times in correspondence we have received, by people who have seen through the
Renal department is now also closed.
is bad publicity regarding allegations of theft of a kidney and subsequent
current legal action being taken in India. (see page 28).
1997 Australian national television ‘60 Minutes’ critically investigated the
super speciality hospital, and Sai Baba’s claims of divinity.
for obtaining this video are as follows :
‘God Botherers Segment’ - Ex: 60 Minutes
9 Network Australia
Tel: + 9439 4500
Fax: + 9906 4415
The Water Project
has been claimed that all seven hundred and fifty villages in the Sai Baba Water
Project are now receiving water. This I believed until I was shown a Telegu
newspaper with a front page feature article showing photos of villages with no
water, broken pipes, no pipes, pipes and no tanks, and many with nothing at all.
The headlines translated, read
‘SAI BABA WHERE’S OUR WATER?
YOU’VE CHEATED US AGAIN!’.
went to some of these villages within the project radius and found for myself
that the report was correct. My questioning local businessmen in the area
revealed some interesting information. General opinion concurred that the
project had been set up because the ashram had many problems with it’s own
insufficient well supply; one of which was constantly recurring gastric
disturbances, particularly with foreign devotees.
for permission to lay a water pipeline to the ashram fell on govt.’s deaf
ears, the response being that unless villages along the proposed line could also
be supplied, permission would be withheld. Hence the huge global fund raising,
which also perplexed me - having been indoctrinated with the ‘no fund
raising’ policies given out by Sai Baba.
Within twelve months an effective pipeline to the ashram and a selection
of villages was established, and then the work stopped. At my consternation at
being of told this scandalous situation, the village elders simply shrugged
their shoulders saying “What can we do?”
Faye and I travelled around the world, speaking to Sai Baba groups, after almost
every meeting people would come to
us asking for help because of the financial trickery they had experienced at the
ashram. In particular, over giving many thousands of pounds, dollars, marks or
whatever for a unit there, and never getting one, let alone being given a
receipt for the money. Then, when eventually disheartened, they attempted to
retrieve their money, they were told there were no records of the transaction.
We heard this story many times.
It is a common practice
at retreats and meetings, for new devotees to be told that Sai Baba does not
happened at Downe House Public School (nr. Newbury), where a series of weekend
retreats were held during school holidays. However, when the new devotees had
been to more than one weekend, they were taken aside individually and given a
bank account number at the Bank of India in Andhra Pradesh, to which donations
can be sent.
some occasions, with particularly gullible targets, a printed paragraph was
given - to be inserted into a will for donations to be made. Such people were
also told that sending money to the Sathya Sai Medical Trust in India was
inheritance tax effective, as the Indian Trust is a registered charity in the
United Kingdom. This of course is untrue. Such donations do not attract
inheritance tax relief. The above allegation of fraud is supported by a
statement from a lawyer and others who were personally involved.
surprisingly, Downe House has since banned any further Sai Organisation meetings
on it’s premises.
spoke to people who had written dozens of letters over serious personal
situations and had had no response, and no change in the situation. Desperate
and despondent, these people turned to us as their last hope, asking us to
intercede for them with Sai Baba, whom they believed was omnipotent (but not,
mothers, and young men of various ages would ask to speak to me in confidence
about intimate incidents they had had with Swami. They told me about alleged
sexual activity, each story replicating the previous one. Swami would take these
young men and boys into the private interview room alone with him, then insist
that they take their trousers down and he would massage them, often masturbating
them, and/or insisting on oral sex and sometimes collecting their semen in his
left me speechless! I knew of the book written by Tal Brook in the 70’s called
‘Lord of the Air’ where he detailed the sexual harassment he had undergone
with Sai Baba, but this book had always been dismissed by long established
devotees as a collection of mischief making lies told by an angry young man. And
yet Faye’s own son had been kissed repeatedly on his cheeks and the corners of
his mouth when alone in the inner room with Sai Baba, and also sexually touched.
And when it was obvious to Sai Baba that this behaviour was unwelcome, he began
berating the young man in subsequent interviews with Faye, calling him ‘Mad
dog! Hard hearted!’ and so on. At the time this seemed incongruous; it was
only after we began travelling the world that the inconceivable and
incomprehensible began to make itself clear.
I asked various co-ordinators about these many disturbing incidents reported to
me in our travels, I was told that Swami was ‘raising kundalini’. I
questioned this in my mind. If he was capable of doing anything,
why did he have to physically touch the boys, especially when they were
unwilling? And what about when he had them
actively engage in sex to him? It
seems that an ongoing, serious and untenable infringement of basic human rights
is being scurrilously perpetrated, in the name of ‘divinity’.
didn’t ever hear any stories about girls having their kundalini raised
in this way.
my last visit to Puttaparthi, a male student came and asked me for help, on
behalf of some of his fellow students, because they were desperately in need of
someone to stop Swami sexually abusing them. I was told how Sai Baba had for
years been demanding that these particular boys have oral sex, and group sex for
his pleasure. Their details matched what I had already been told so many times
round the world. I asked him if this was an acceptable practice in India, and
his look of horror as he denied it, spoke volumes.
he asked me a question I couldn’t answer.
‘Sir, why do you think ex-students tried to kill him in ’93 ...?’
turned to several long time devotees on the verandah for explanation of these
nefarious activities, and worried them with questions and suppositions until in
the end they realised that I had found the truth, and then admitted that these
things do happen; and then
- agreed with each other that it was for his pleasure and nothing to do
with kundalini raising.
national co-ordinators I spoke to, both in India and after we returned home,
continued for a time, to deny that it happens. But when it became obvious
that I was
going to leave this issue alone, a couple of them telephoned me to say that yes
I was correct and they had known of this for years. ‘But he is God, and God
can do anything he likes.’ (!!!)
in 1999 a young Swedish man returned from a visit to the ashram and made a full
statement to his co-ordinating committee about his sexual experiences with Swami
during six interviews. Within hours of this revelation, one of the top officials
of Sweden’s Sai organisation was on our doorstep, asking why we
had left Sai Baba. He and his wife, both really lovely people, were absolutely
devastated to hear the young man’s story confirmed. After saying brokenly ‘I
cannot be part of this’ he went outside and sat on the steps in our front
garden and sobbed his heart out. He had been a devotee for more than twenty
years, and his wife had written two books on Sai Baba and another was already at
the point of being printed.
went home to resign his position from something he had given years of his life
and his love to, and she cancelled her book and withdrew the others from the
market. Within days there was public confirmation - that these things I had
spoken about through the year to a small number of serious seekers of truth -
were indeed happening to others as well.
Soon after, the Sai
school in Sweden closed.
to this courageous young man’s statement, the unmentionable began being
mentioned, then mentioned increasingly loudly, by increasing numbers of young
men. The Swedish publicity began a flurry of exposures. Swedish film star Conny
Larsson revealed his own experiences, which are included in this fact file. Our
phone ran hot with young men from all over Europe
sharing their pain.
teenager rang from France and confided that he had wanted to commit suicide ever
since his own experience of sexual harassment, as he couldn’t live with the
thought that he must be gay. He said he was very relieved to hear that there
were other victims.
Education in Human Values system was developed by Dr. Gokak, at one time a
member of Sai Baba’s professorial board. Sai Baba has not written any part of
this system. Dr. Gokak left Sai Baba some years ago.
Schools and colleges.
was led to believe that the schools and colleges in Puttaparthi and Whitefield
had been set up to give free education to local children. This is not the case.
Last year the fees at the lower grade schools were 20,000 rupees per child for
one year, plus books, plus uniform plus accommodation if required.
village school is government run, and as are all village schools throughout
India, and is free - parents pay only for books and uniform.
that the college boys I taught were local lads, I was amazed at their learning
capacity, until I discovered that these boys were brought in from all over India
and had to pass very strict
entrance exams, needing 85-90% pass marks. As one of the tutors said to me -
“Sai Baba takes only the best. They’d have to try, to fail”.
of my concerns with these lads, was that they had no career officer to guide
them as to where they may find a job, and they would return after leaving
college and ask me for advice about how to get employment. This occurred
regularly over the five years I interacted with them.
a professional journalist who wrote for spiritual magazines, went
to see Sai Baba with her husband Ron Laing and had a number of interviews
during their short stay. Both she and Ron were enchanted with Swami (as indeed I
was at first), and this one visit was the basis for their subsequent writings.
December 1997 on our way to Gatwick airport to leave for India, we collected a
letter written to Swami by Peggy.
gave the letter to him during the next afternoon darshan.
following morning I received a fax to say that Peggy had died.
few days later I had an interview in the company of the editor of the Sanathana
Sarathi, and he told Swami that Faye was now editor of Peggy Mason’s
: “Yes, yes. It’s in very good hands, now make it go! How is Peggy Mason?”
: “She has merged with you”.
: “Yes. She lives near you in England?”
: “She lived eighty miles from me, but she died a few days ago
Swami. She is with you!”
: “Yes, yes, her husband was a good man. When you go home, give my regards to
: “She is dead Swami. Dead! She has
merged with you!’”
: “Give her my love when you get back to England”.
: “I cannot Swami, because she is DEAD!”
: “Oh ?? Oh.....”
another interview a few days later, (this time with Faye) Swami seemed very
confused and spoke randomly without making coherent sense for a minute or so,
and ended by telling all in the room that Peggy Mason had played the trumpet
very well during the Christmas celebrations just completed in the ashram. He was
not making a joke and we were both nonplussed and very disturbed, and everyone
else there also looked puzzled and somewhat concerned about these ramblings, as they
had all heard Maynard Ferguson play trumpet on Christmas day
two occasions he called us into the private interview room and questioned me
intently about someone in the outer room. Then after we had both returned to the
outer room he repeated everything I had just told him, no more, no less, while
implying he was getting the information by ‘tuning in’.
possibly explains why he thought I was American in the first instance, even
referring to me in his discourse as American. Perhaps someone had given him
greatest difficulty at this time, was finding someone other than Faye, to talk
to about all these disturbing findings. Everyone I knew from the west had had
much less interactive experience with Swami than I had. During my
six years of being devoted to him I had had over one hundred close
encounters in the way of interviews and work sessions, and been very involved
with him during my times of teaching the students in the male college.
most devotees, a visit to the ashram means sitting in the darshan lines looking
on, wishing and hoping for interaction, whilst listening to the stories others
tell. This is very different to being ‘in there’ - seeing how things work
behind the scenes.
had to find someone who had had the same level of experience as I had.
began to look for Terry Gallagher, an Australian whom, I heard, had been close
to Swami before my time. Terry had been Central Coordiantor for the Sai
organisation in Australia for three years, and had been given very preferential
treatment from Sai Baba for a number of years. I traced him to Kiama in New
South Wales, Australia.
knew he had left the ashram vowing never to return, and I wanted to know why? I
soon found out. Terry had discovered the unmentionable inner workings of Sai
Baba as I had now done. Exactly the same... but more. Terry left, never to
return after the assassination attempt by ex-students in 1993. I wanted to know
what Terry knew. I soon did.
own experiences - page 14)
this why there are so few really ‘long standing’ western followers around?
Do those who get close, get too close and discover that the mighty ‘Wizard of
Oz’ is just a little magician? In this case, a little magician who is also a
they then discern that ‘God wouldn’t do that’ and leave?
another with a very close connection to Sai Baba some years before Terry’s
time, had also discovered the truth behind the facade and left. Premanand now
shares his findings on Internet.
are many instances of vibhuti etc appearing on pictures around the world. Very
often in homes and temples where non-stop bhajans are sung, which may well have
something to do with the appearance of this phenomena. Generally speaking, we in
the west know so little about mind power and the power of vibration. However
some of these appearances of vibhuti are fake, and can be created by chemical
would appear to be genuine, but my research in this area leads me to determine
that the appearance of phenomena does not automatically
mean it comes from Swami, or has any divine connection whatsoever. Whilst in
India Faye and I saw many examples of phenomena. Enough to know that the ability
to do phenomena does not make one divine.
suspicions once aroused about Swami’s divinity, gave me no peace.
I blindly accepted because I had been told they were so, did not stand up in the
light of close scrutiny. Even the men in power around him, although they act out
a role of subservient adoration when in front of Sai Baba, play a different part
away from him. On occasions I was with members of the inner circle, Mr Rao for
example, in the main office. Once, I had been sent by Swami for something and
the reply he gave me ended with the words “Swami doesn’t know what he is
talking about” (!) Yet they perpetrate the idea that he knows everything.
this questioning span of many months I have had my share of indoctrination
procedure from those in high places. While at the ashram, my very first queries
brought intense social interaction from an Indian inner circle member who,
unknown and uninvited, visited Faye and me in our unit after almost every
darshan for a week, to tell us of the many wonders of Swami’s miraculous
powers. Only later did we understand why he did this.
back home, when rumours were beginning to fly about our defection from the fold,
I received several phone calls from long standing devotees from the VIP lines,
telling me that I had a problem. I had to decide if Sai Baba was God or not. If
he was God, then he could do everything he wanted to anyone, sexually,
fraudulently, drugs, trickery etc, but of course if I did not accept him as God,
then I had my own view of morals, and the laws of my land to follow.
me there was no choice to make.
know there are instances worldwide of people going to Prashanthi, and coming
back with a new lease of life, but so do people who visit the many other gurus
in India, or Mother Meera, or Lourdes, and so on. My investigations into mind
power find simple explanations for this.
even only a handful of people sit quietly together to do Yoga meditation, circle
work, or just to meditate, they expect and often get a lovely atmosphere, and
sometimes, healing happens.
the energy that might be generated by hundreds of people sitting quietly focused
for an hour or two in darshan. Amongst these are probably some natural or
trained psychics, and natural or trained healers, as well as many people sitting
still and focused for a lengthy period, perhaps for the first time in their
lives. Different experiences are bound to occur. Nothing to do with Sai Baba.
I think the
‘love-connection’ people experience is simply one connecting with one’s
one gets involved with Sai Baba, a very subtle brain washing commences. Sitting
for hours in darshan is one of these. When one sees all around with hands in
prayer position, one naturally follows suite. Once attached and involved, common sense and logic progressively
disappears, until one reaches the point of attributing every small act of living
to Sai Baba.
Where to now?
more gurus for me.
more, for me the true connection with God is inside me.
more giving my power away.
sit still quietly and talk to God within, I find gets real answers.
accept who I am in this life, and to do my best with my gifts, knowing that I am
part of the Great Picture, is enough.
I take any other subject I look at
the pros and cons fearlessly.
example where I shop : Is the price good? Do they sell what I want?
perhaps : Is this car what I really want? How many miles to the gallon?
Insurance cost, deterioration, repair bills?
: Is this double glazing well made?
choose from being presented the true facts. The car sales man was not knowingly
waiting there for me, to give me an experience I needed for my life. I gave
myself the experience by deciding to go that showroom.
consider this attitude should also be applied to spiritual subjects.
spent a lot of time believing what I was told by others - that this was a great
test for me, and Swami was doing it to give me an experience.
my conversations and observations with Swami I know for myself that this is not
the case. I gave myself the experience, by listening to very well meaning people
when I first heard about Swami, who in their turn had not done any research into
the truth, but just believed others.
are fantastic stories going round about Sai Baba’s supposed powers, but in
five years searching I have not found one to be genuine. Always secondhand
information. People repeat these stories in good faith and then say ‘I know
this was so’, but how can they know? They were not there.
above is first hand information.
Terry Gallagher - a letter to the Baileys.
Faye and David,
speaking to you recently I was so pleased to hear about your decision not to
mention or publish anything further about Sai Baba in your Quarterly Spiritual
information you have uncovered about Sai Baba, I have also found out from
personal experience to be true.
began as a wonderful spiritual journey ended with total disbelief and bitter
disappointment when we found out the truth.
I should start at the beginning with a brief account of that journey.
reading a book called ‘Man of Miracles’ I set off for India (and
Puttaparthi) with my wife and three young daughters, in an organised group for
we found when we arrived in India was something I had been searching for all my
life. The most beautiful, peaceful atmosphere, with wonderful people searching
for their own spiritual truth, living in a community whose whole objective was
that of improving self-awareness and achieving self-realisation, through the
teachings of a living guru - Sai Baba.
to the ashram and provided free of cost to the students was a primary school for
boys and girls, and various colleges for boys, where spiritual teachings were
incoporated into the normal academic disciplines.
were all very impressed and motivated towards learning as much as possible about
what Sai Baba had to teach us.
celebration of Christmas came and went, after which our family was called for an
interview with Sai Baba. As a result of this interview and what appeared at the
time to be the most perfect environment for students and devotees to advance
their spiritual lives, I made a substantial donation to the Central Trust to
help them fund their educational programmes.
leaving the interview I was told by Sai Baba that I should sit on the verandah
of the Mandir in future, with students from the colleges and other devotees.
it turned out this gave me the opportunity to meet people and observe events
very closely, that I otherwise may not have had the opportunity to do.
all had mixed feelings when we had to leave the ashram and return to Australia,
sad in having to leave and joy in what we had experienced.
returned to the ashram again in 1985 for one month, then in 1986 we stayed for
seven months, at which time our daughters attended Sai Baba’s school.
was during this time that I began to observe things that made me question what I
had experienced on previous visits. Having a scientific background I began to
observe a set routine that Sai Baba followed each morning and evening during
darshan, and in particular, how he materialised vibhuti (holy ash).
will never forget the look of anguish on Sai Baba’s face when he came into the
verandah of the Mandir early one morning and dropped two vibhuti pellets in
front of me, as he attempted to accept a rose from a college student. There was
no vibhuti materialisation during darshan that morning!
the months that followed I observed how he transferred these vibhuti pellets
from one hand to the other, using the letters he collects from devotees to
disguise his movements. In the many interviews that followed I also observed
more than thirty instances of rings, ‘diamonds’, japamalas, vibhuti
containers etc, all being produced by sleight of hand and deception.
first I kept this information to myself. I reasoned that if this was what made
people come to see Sai Baba, resulting in them becoming more spiritual, what
harm could it do! Eventually I told my wife and children, who also saw through
this ‘materialisation’ trickery.
was the observations and information that followed on from these initial
findings that concerned me most, especially
those relating to students being sexually interferred with in grotesque ways by
returned to the ashram several times during the following years, making further
observations and having these confirmed by college students and long term
devotees living at the ashram. During this time I was the central coordinator
for three years for the Sathya Sai organisation in Australia.
wasn’t until 1993, following the assassination attempt on Sai Baba, resulting
in the murder of four college students and two assistants in the Mandir, that we
made our last visit to India.
purpose of this visit was to find the reason why former students of Sai Baba’s
college would want to kill him, particularly when they had been given a free
eye witness accounts were horrific! After bursting into the Mandir, four
students found themselves trapped upstairs where Sai Baba was staying. Each was
interrogated by police, then one at a time they were executed!
stench of death was everywhere.
made further inquiries about Sai Baba having sexual relations with college boys
and male students - some of these as young as seven years of age - and whether
this was the reason for former students wanting to kill him. I was told, to my
horror, that this was an acceptable Indian practice!
felt sick, and just wanted to take my family and leave the ashram and India as
quickly as possible.
we did, we were all called for interview with Sai Baba and we told him what we
had experienced and been told.
Baba made no comment on our accusations and was only anxious to know who had
told us these details, requesting us to tell him several times! Having had
dozens of interviews over the years, this was the most stressful and
uncomfortable interview our family had ever experienced.
Baba was tense and agitated and his body language told us all, that what we had
found out about him was the truth!
left the interview and returned to Australia.
following years were very difficult spiritually, we concentrated on all the
positive aspects we had experienced over the past ten years and found this
we attempted to tell others about our experiences and the truth about Sai Baba,
no one would believe us, except those who also had similar experiences, and
mostly - fear prevents them from telling others!
has only been in the past twelve months that former students and devotees of Sai
Baba have begun communicating with each other, confirming experiences to be true
and supporting each other spiritually and emotionally when necessary.
now know the truth about Sai Baba and sincerely pray that others too, perhaps
through your magazine, will follow both their logic and intuition to also find
Ex- Central Coordinator of
Sathya Sai Organisation
: Name withheld at request. (Available for investigation by authority)
: DR BHATIA (HEAD OF SSH BLOOD BANK).
WHY DID HE LEAVE?
the notice of expulsion of Dr Bhatia in the Sanathana Sarathi magazine, please
young students from Sai Baba’s junior male college were called for interview.
One of them, a seven year old boy student, came out of the private interview
continued to cry for two days, and was unable to eat or study.
evening Dr Bahtia, on duty in the children’s canteen, was asked to find the
cause of the child’s distress.
questioned and then examined the child, and found that he had been sexually
penetrated, via his anus.
child was taken to Bangalore and re-examined. A second medical opinion confirmed
Bhatia had been involved in sexual activity with Sai Baba for six years, believing
that he was serving divinity.
went to Sai Baba :
Why do you do this to such a young child when you have all of us adults and the
older students to play with?
Baba’s reply :
Don’t bargain with God!
after, five men went to Dr Bhatia’s home, threatening his life with knives.
made his escape by car, fleeing to Delhi.
there Dr Bhatia was unable to practice medicine because he had left all his
personal papers behind in Puttaparthi. He
wrote asking for them. They have not yet been released. However, the doctor now
practices at a Delhi hospital.
promisory agreement has been offered from Puttaparthi, that Dr Bhatia’s
personal belongings will be released to him on the proviso that :
he remain mute about the happenings concerning the little boy student
he does not make any legal claims against the Super Speciality Hospital
he keeps his sexual relationship with Sai Baba a secret.
rumour given out for his ‘dismissal’ was that he was caught selling blood,
another that he was having an affair within the ashram, and yet another claiming
jealousy between departmental heads at the hospital.
offer this for the sake of truth.
SATHYA SAI BABA
: THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY.
on soc.culture.tamil by ex-student
Meenakshi Srikanth in 1993 after some students tried to kill Sai Baba but
The following is a chronicle of my experiences in the Sri Sathya Sai Institute
of Higher Learning (Whitefield branch). You have my word about the truth of this
article, which has no intention to pass judgment about the personality under
consideration. Meenakshi warns that the information may shock.
GOOD : An excellent orator in Telegu; does not have a
radically new philosophy; effectively preaches age old values. Many followers
attempt to practice the ideals; and there are numerous charity programmes
organised in his name.
BAD : How does he get his following? ‘Miracles’. A
few days after I joined the college, during darshan time Swami was casually
talking about the power of meditation or some such thing when all of a sudden he
waved his hands in the air and produced a pendant containing a beautiful picture
of Lord Muruga. I was stunned. I had not seen anything like that before. I was
not a devotee when I joined the college (my father asked me to), so this was
something that really shook me. I went back to the hostel and waxed eloquent
about the power of Swami to some of my seniors.
nodded sagely and smiled cryptically. It was not long before some of them called
me aside and said “Don’t start believing all this stuff. It does not take
much to become a devotee, but it takes a lot to come out of it”. Saying this
one of them waved his hand and produced vibhuti and another produced a ring.
Then they told me all.
simplicity of this is going to baffle you, so be prepared for the gullibility of
the common man.
produces things out of ‘thin air’ by turning his right palm to face the
ground while rotating it (parallel to the ground) a few times. He then makes a
sudden upward motion (as if he is plucking a low lying fruit) and gives out
whatever he has produced. The mechanism of doing this is simple. When he comes
out of the mandir, his left hand will be holding a kerchief or letter or his
look at his smiling face or his overflowing hair. Look at his left hand:
clutched in his hand with (mostly) the middle finger, ring finger and the little
finger is whatever he is going to give out that session. Vibhuti pellets (those
of you who have seen him give out vibhuti will recollect that he makes a
powdering action with his fingers when he is actually delivering), rings or
whatever. Just keep looking at his hand. There will be a time when a devotee
will fall at his feet or when he will lean forward. At that time the stuff gets
transferred to between his fingers in the right hand. This would be visible too
(if you are looking for it). Very soon thereafter, the ‘materialisation’
so you think this method is so stupid that even a goat would have found it out
by now. Let me tell you something, just practice this a few times, and try it on
your friends. You will be surprised by their surprise. I can do this easily now
and have fooled many of my friends. Only I don’t call myself god and have VIPs
fall at my feet.
have seen these things happen hundreds of times. I have received vibhuti, laddu
and such myself. In our hostel there was a coterie (select group) who knew about
all these tricks. We used to have a ball of a time in darshan line and then
share the hilarious experiences after the show was over.
Swami was out of the mandir and was collecting letters. He had a small silver
pendant in his hand which we had all seen when he had gone past us in the line.
He had transferred it to his right hand and was just waiting for someone to give
it to, when a devotee from a back row extended a letter. Swami bent forward and
stretched out his right palm to receive it. It was a fine Bangalore morning, the
sun was out and the pendant in his hand was gleaming for all to see! We went
black and blue for a second and suppressing a threatening-to-explode laugh,
looked away. Swami went ahead unperturbed, and gave the pendant to some
important looking guy down the line. We were talking about this for a whole week
and even thought of writing a letter to Swami asking him to be more careful.
another occasion, a singer had come to Brindavan and we were listening to him.
Swami wanted to give him a watch and it was in readiness beneath his left thigh
in the sofa on which he was sitting. I was sitting three rows from Swami and
watching him closely. The song over, Swami shifted a bit on his seat and the
watch was now in his left hand. He bent forward and moved the watch to his right
hand. I saw this, then looked up and saw Swami was watching me. I turned red but
so did Swami! He started shifting around a lot and asked one of the students to
change the direction of the table fan and when the audience was looking away,
put the watch back in his left hand. Now, the student who was changing the fan
was a nervous wreck with everyone watching him, and whatever happened, there
were sparks flying out of the socket! Other students set it right, but by now
the watch had gone back below the thigh. The singer never got it that day (I
really felt sorry for him).
next morning in darshan line Swami came near me and opening his empty right
palm, called me a ‘Doubting Thomas’. I wished I could have asked him to open
the left palm, since I knew he had something there.
this seems funny but I got very scared and wrote a very apologetic letter to
are a couple of other tricks he does. During Dussehra he does a vibhuti abhishek
of Shirdi Sai Baba. He gets a pot, turns it upside down to show it empty, then
puts his hand inside and vibhuti starts flowing out. Even a goat with a rational
mind would figure out what he is doing. Take a pot, fill it with vibhuti and
solidify it with some water and let it stand. Until you disturb it, nothing will
thing he used to do was materialise linga. He does this by regurgitation (yes!).
He makes motions as if he is trying to get it out of his stomach and soon
enough, has it out of his mouth. You will find plenty of these if you visit the
museum in Puttaparthi. The way he does this is also simple. There is always a
queue of trusted lieutenants (secret police?) who stand by him and pass him
white hand kerchiefs on which he would eventually place the linga.
one of these the linga will come and all he has to do is to take it close to his
mouth and make a motion as if the linga had just dropped into the kerchief. I
have not seen this myself (he no longer does it) but I have seen videos of this.
My point is, once you have proved that one of his miracles is magic, the rest
don’t need any proof.
students in the college know this and live a life of forced devotion and false
pretence. They have to, for if they don’t life can get very unpleasant. The
parents of these students are very ardent devotees, whose lives have been
defined by their devotion to Swami. It would be impossible to convince them that
Swami is not what they think he is, but only a cheap charlatan doing popular
lives of these students are truly pitiable. They live a constant Jeckyll and
Hyde life from which there is no reprieve. But the lives of some students are
UGLY : This I have not had personal experience with
(thank holy heavens for that!) but it is 100% true because I have heard first
hand accounts of these bizarre things. I have looked at enough circumstantial
evidences along with these witness’ accounts that I have no hesitation in
telling that the following is true.
do I start telling this to you, gentle reader? In my very first few days in our
hostel, I had the distinct impression that something ugly was going on about
knew but none wanted to talk. Whenever Swami came to Bangalore, there always
used to be a few students who got interviews every other day.
students were often referred to as those who are ‘in form’ (a cricket
analogy) with Swami. These students were among the most privileged in the
hostel. They could go outside the hostel (not normally allowed) as and when they
like, and behave specially. The wardens and lecturers used to consult them
before anything significant was done in the hostel. These students kept within
themselves for most of the time. I was preoccupied with my own troubles and did
not keep any close look at these, though I was curious.
I got to know about Swami from my seniors, they asked me if I noticed anything
strange about the hostel. I told them. They smiled and asked me to keep an open
eye, promising they would tell me all about it soon. It did not take me very
long to find out what was different about these students. They were all gay.
Now, kindly bring down those raised eyebrows my dear reader. All the
indications, body languages, special jokes about husband and wives etc were
there and it did not take a sleuth’s effort to divine what was going on. I
told about this to my seniors and the fact they told me was startling to say the
of these students were made gay (‘sodomized’ would be an unrefined word) by
Swami, who himself is a gay. (!)
did not believe it when they told me this. But not long after, I heard the
experiences as narrated by students who had undergone the trauma themselves.
Now, it so happened that a couple of these students were Tamils, with whom I
became friendly quite soon.
of them used to tell me harrowing stories. When Swami was in Brindavan he used
to get the call for interview at least once in three days. Whereas a student
when he gets an interview is usually so elated and pleased that Swami has
recognised his devotion etc - this boy, let’s call him Nandan, always had a
grim face as he walked into the bungalow.
never attended classes those days in which he got an interview. I have often
seen him show marks in his chest and chin and say a flow of choice words of
slang. Nandan often used to get covers (envelopes) from Swami in public and
sometimes he would be asked to open one. It would contain crisp hundred rupee
note: I have seen this happen many times).
is another word for giving money for such acts. Nandan was helpless. He could
not go home and complain. His family and parents were devotees for thirty years
and their very lives had been defined around Baba. Nandan, since he knew the
world, has been knowing Swami and none else as God. He was first initiated into
doing this when he was in school. Swami told him that he (Swami) was the only
purusha in the world and the whole world was his wife. Nandan was asked to think
of himself as Radha, devoted to the Krishna.
whole attitude towards life is now irrevocably changed.
was another boy, Kumar (say), who was called for interview the first time. He
was so elated. That afternoon a bunch of us went up to him (he was our junior)
and asked him what happened. He had a blissful look on his face as he spoke.
“Swami asked me if I had stomach ache? I said by Swami’s grace I don’t.
Swami laughed and said ‘Why do you have to hide it from me? Tell me, do you
have stomach ache?’ I don’t know why but I said yes. Swami then said he will
cure it and produced sandalwood oil from thin air and rubbed it on my stomach
and below. I will never forget the experience”. We did not need such proofs
however. It was always obvious. Jokes with double meanings, pattings on the
cheek, pinching students.
had the horrible habit of putting his hand inside the shirt pocket and pinching
who entered this quicksand of destruction, whether willingly or otherwise, lead
an unspeakable life. Devoted students held them in awe and the students who
knew, either despised them or pitied them. And they had no recourse.
were students who went dangerously close to such a fate and escaped. My friend
Ramana (say), was high on the hit list when he smartly realised this and moved
out of sight by not attending bhajans or hiding in the back rows. That was the
time I was on the hit list too, but our guardian angels intervened in the form
of a summer vacation.
the end of my stay in the place, the disease was only spreading. I was in
Bangalore. In Puttaparthi (where we used to go some five times a year) things
were far worse in numbers. I heard that many students there are gay either
directly by the big man or transitively. The atmosphere, an all-boys place with
zero outer world exposure for a prolonged period during adolescence, is only
conducive to such a thing.
in my opinion is the ugliest part of Swami. We used to divulge the information
about Swami to our juniors, whether advisable or not. I always said it should be
done if only to make them realise about this ugly part.
: ‘delta _ 108’ April 1999 (ex-ashram security)
TIME FOR ACTION
know a great deal about what is happening in Puttaparthi. I personally know an
ex-student who spent eleven months in Sai Baba’s room a few years back. He was
sent out of college by Sai Baba when into the first year of his master’s
degree, because he got too close and knew too much, and because then he didn’t
go along with what Sai Baba wanted.
told me that the students in Sai Baba’s inner chamber are in charge of all the
preparatory activities before darshan and interviews, and have access to all his
are asked to open all mail addressed to Sai Baba and most times he allows them
to keep the money that is sometimes enclosed, if it is less than Rs5000.
It is such common practice.
students hardly go to classes, and the great Chancellor doesn’t mind at all!
Even staff of the college and other officials of the ashram are very deferential
to them. They play western music on their stereo systems, that they are allowed
to have. Usually there are three or four students living with him at any given
officials of the Trust know something of this nature is going on. They are
making hay while the sun shines, and most of them have eaten enough money after
coming, to know Sai Baba is hardly divine. The way these close people talk about
him is enough to figure out that they are in no way worried about his
‘divinity’, and have scant regard or respect for him, which would not be the
case if they had knowledge of any divine power.
: IRAN / USA
: Afshin Khorramshahgol - correspondence to David and Faye Bailey
: MY ACCOUNT RE SAI BABA
Faye and David, Hello.
is a brief account of my experiences with Sai Baba. I apologise for the graphic
language of this message, but it is the only way to share my experiences.
travelled to India three times,
from 1991 to 1993. On my first visit to India I was already a devotee of Sai
Baba and believed he was God. I had a total of seven private interviews in the
first two trips. In the first private interview Sai Baba asked me to undo my
pants and drop my underwear. Since I believed he was God I did as he asked. He
had already ‘materialised’ oil and he applied it in the area between my
penis and anus.
was told after the interview by some devotees, that this act is done by gurus to
their disciples to open a chakra, or source of spiritual energy in the body of
the disciple. However I am not sure if this is what in fact Sai Baba had done.
research since, has not found this initiation ceremony in any Hindu books or
scriptures, or among Hindu followers of other gurus.
every private interview after the ‘initiation’ private interview, Sai Baba
asked me to drop my pants and underwear, and he would rub my penis. Once he was
rubbing it so hard it was obvious to me that he wanted me to get an erection.
was busy talking to him about my problems, the problems of my country Iran, and
my family’s problems, and I was asking him for his blessing for all of them.
was not interested in sex or anything, especially with a guy, and so my penis
did not grow, now matter how hard Sai Baba tried. Finally, he gave up and threw
my penis up and turned away with a very angry face and mumbled something. When
he turned back to me, he told me to put my pants on again and the private
interview was over.
may ask why I didn’t stop Sai Baba doing what he was doing if it was so
obvious to me that he wanted me to get an erection?
to my being brainwashed, I thought I had to throw out this thought as it was
another obstacle on my way to reach God. According to Sai Baba, all bad thoughts
have to be thrown out immediately and replace with good, pure thoughts - and so
I threw out the idea of Sai Baba trying to give me an erection, even though I
knew he was.
another interview, Sai Baba asked me to kneel in front of him while he was
standing. He took my head with his right hand and pushed it hard into his
stomach. He then took my other hand with his left hand and tried to rub it
against his penis.
did not grab his penis. I just let him direct my hand to his penis, using the
outside of my hand, not the palm of my hand. While he was rubbing my hand on his
penis, he was moaning sexually.
the middle of this act, I tried to look up to see his face as I wanted to see
his emotions, He didn’t let me. He pushed my head into his stomach harder, and
this made me stop my desire to see his face altogether. He finally gave up,
realising that I was not interested in grabbing his penis, since I wasn’t
willing to use my palm to touch him.
this incident didn’t shake my faith in him. That’s how strong is the
brainwashing in Sai baba’s organisation.
all the private interviews that I had with Sai Baba, he would also hug or kiss
me, or ask me to kiss him. I had come to reason with myself that he was touching
my penis because he was probably healing me of some disease or handicap. I
reasoned to myself that Sai Baba asked me to kiss him, or kissed me because he
loved me, and kissing on the cheeks is all right - kissing on the cheeks between
men is okay in my country.
was not until I saw a movie that shows Sai Baba cheating, that my faith in him
started to crumble. It was only after I left Sai Baba (six months after seeing
that movie) that I realised his real intentions in those private interviews.
am willing to testify in any court of law or in any gathering about the above
have been very active on the internet for the past six years and I have saved
numerous people from falling into Sai Baba’s evil trap.
Jens Sethu - A letter to David
: EXPERIENCES OF AN EX-SAI BABA DEVOTEE
David Bailey, I am giving you a thorough account of my traumatic experiences
with Sathya Sai Baba and hope that this will help people understand what he is
all about. All the details are the truth and can be seen as testimony. I could
and would testify to the following in an open court.
am thirty-five years old and have been interested in spiritual matters since my
childhood. For a long time I worshipped Jesus and Padre Pio, then after reading
Yogananda’s ‘Autobiography of a Yogi’ I turned towards the yogi path.
October 1988 I became an ardent follower of Sathya Sai Baba, and came to
Puttaparthi for the first time in September 1989. Since then I visited
Puttaparthi regularly every year and was totally absorbed in the ‘aura’ of
Sai Baba. I was fully convinced of his avatarhood and became so devoted that I
was thinking and contemplating all the time about him alone.
1989 I read ‘Lord of the Air’ by Tal Brooks (a young male USA ex-devotee who
wrote of Sai Baba’s sexual abuse of him), but I did not believe, thinking
“Tal only wants to decry Baba”. I was just ignoring the facts.
the years I had hundreds of darshans but never an interview. In 1993 I became a
little suspicious about Sai Baba’s lifestyle and the activities in the ashram.
Every year I could see costly new buildings and felt an increasing
commercialisation was going on. In 1996 I saw Sai Baba leaving the ashram in an
expensive ‘Jaguar’ and other costly cars like ‘Mercedes’ and ‘BMW’
of the big class. But I still believed him to be the Kali avatar of the age.
17th January 1996 I got my first interview and he was very kind telling me nice
things like “I will give you everything” as he touched and stroked my head.
He said “I know you’re not sure about your life and future and so on. Also
unhappiness from women. I know, don’t worry. Also you have some bad thoughts,
not good”. Then he said “I give you everything according to health,
spirituality and life. Everything. I give you infinite love. You and me will
become one”. I touched his robe and he put his hand on the top of my head
saying “I give you separate interview”.
20th January 1996 I got the second interview. Already days before, he had
established a strange eye-contact with me indicating the coming interview. My
wife and I went to the interview and he acted very disappointed at seeing me
together with my wife. He took me alone into the interview room and said “She
is diseased and much older than you. Please separate from her”. I was really
shocked and replied “She is attached to me”.
asked him to give her some spiritual instruction, which he readily agreed to do,
but he had something else on his mind.
asking permission he started kissing me on my lips for some time, and later
asked me to open my trousers and ‘materialised’ some oil which he rubbed on
the skin above my genitals. I felt very bad about all of this, but accepted, as
I fully trusted Sai Baba.
he took my wife into the private interview room alone, and told her “Either
you separate from the boy or I throw you out of Puttaparthi!”. He appeared
wild and furious (my wife told me afterwards) and she shivered all over. When
she reappeared in a very short time, looking red faced and very scared, nobody
dared ask her what happened in there.
saw me again some days later in darshan and asked whether I had separated or
not. I said “Not yet”. He turned away and shouted so all people could hear
“Bad, Bad boy!!!” He was so aggressive and seemed to radiate such an aura of
evil that I was really shocked. We immediately left and went to north India for
was a turning point, but after a time I decided to go once more to Sai Baba to
clarify the matter. At the end of 1996 I returned to India and got interview on
4th December. In the interview he said “Where are you from?” When I told him
I was from Germany, he responded “You are also a Hitler!”. Shocked, I
thought to myself “He is not very kind is he?”
in the private room the greedy old man kissed me again direct and continuously
on my lips for about twenty seconds, and gently stroked my back. By now I was
certain that something was very wrong.
28th December I was again called for interview and he produced a golden ring
which didn’t fit well on my finger in spite of his blowing on it. In the
private chamber he said “Come” and again kissed me on the lips for some time
as before. This time I resisted and he gurgled “Have no fear”. I said “I
have no fear”. Then he said “This is a good opportunity, so many waiting for
months and will not get”. This baffled me. I’m sure people don’t wait for
mouth kisses in Puttaparthi.
his mood totally changed and I did have some fear. He commanded me to remove my
trousers, unzipped my fly and went with his right hand into my underpants.
Sathya Sai Baba the ‘divine’ touched and massaged my genitals unasked. He
expected some erection, but this didn’t happen for I didn’t feel any sexual
excitement, no lust in the presence of a seventy years old man. I was really
disgusted. Then he had the impudence to say “It is very weak, don’t waste
energy”. When I looked at him I realised the truth about him and was shocked
indeed. Soon afterwards, without another word, he sent me out of the room.
in Germany I did intense research on the internet and came across an article
from Jed Geyerhahn and was very happy to have found somebody with similar
I still had some luggage in
Puttaparthi I returned in November 1999 to collect it, taking with me two
internet pages to discuss with some friends there. Unfortunately a lady came
into possession of the material and took it to the Puttaparthi police station.
Then I went through several interrogations with the police there.
Mr. Reddy repeatedly asked from
whom I got the material, and what would be the password. I told him India is
still a democracy and I can carry whatever material I have with me, but he took
no heed of my words. I told him that no password was needed to enter the net and
everyone has free access to the material there. He sent me to an e-mail shop,
accompanied by a policeman who waited, but the computers connected with Hydrabad
are very slow, and therefore I could not enter the website.
the inspector, Mr. Reddy, took my passport away and said “Unless you give me
the password and name of the person I declare you guilty and will not allow you
to leave Puttaparthi”. He treated me very badly, like a criminal, especially
during the last interrogation and I had several witnesses to this incident. All
of this because I had been in possession of two pages which I had not even
then walked me, my wife and an American friend into the ashram, and once inside
the gate, he again asked me the stupid question about the password. At the time
I couldn’t understand why he should do so, but today I know he was showing us
to some people or trustees whom we could not see or recognise.
had another appointment on 1st November with the police, which was the day I
intended to go to Delhi, but without my passport it would not be possible. On
30th October, late in the evening, two people whom I know and an unknown person
came to our unit and one of them warned me that my life was in danger and I
should leave immediately.
wife and I left very early next morning, for Delhi. At Dharmmavaram rail station
the police were searching for us, but we entered the train at Anantapur. There
is a police station near the platform which we had to pass to enter the train,
and the very moment I saw that I told my wife to go into the train separately.
My wife heard a group of policemen talking about searching for somebody and
caught the words ‘passport, Delhi and telegram’. We were in serious danger
but fortunately I was dressed like an Indian, and escaped identification.
we escaped and reached Delhi, and went immediately to the German Embassy. I got
a travel document after telling them of my experience, and the Embassy official
said a protest note would be sent to the Indian Government. He told me such an
act is illegal and they knew of similar cases.
want to inform you that at the police station in Puttaparthi the policeman had a
bunch of both foreign and Indian passports in a drawer under a table, and once I
saw them in his hand. This is just an observation, I don’t know to whom they
this frightening time at Puttaparthi I
met an Italian couple we knew there and tried to tell them what had happened to
me in interview with Sai Baba. They just closed their eyes and the lady shouted
“Be quiet!! Shut up!! Sai Baba is our God, and all the bad stories are not
true!!” Then they turned away. These same people had told me many years before
that they could never find any peace at the ashram, and couldn’t understand
it. But they would not listen to those who know it better. Nobody can possibly
imagine how I felt while all of this was happening. I suffered a lot.
met one ex-soldier from Ruanda who is very tall and handsome. This person has
also been sexually molested by Sai Baba and he told me his story. He is married
and his Japanese wife is a fanatical Sai Baba supporter. They have one child. He
totally depends on her and can see no way to get free from Sai Baba. He has been
given many gifts from Sai Baba like rings, bracelet, gold watch. Sai Baba
touched his testicles and massaged his genitals at least twice. The gifts look
like payment for prostitution, but a prostitute and her customer have a mutual
agreement whereas the male devotees are
molested against their will, and they come for a completely different purpose.
strong faith in Sai Baba has been misused by the same Baba, through his
paedophile behaviour, and this is the most disgraceful thing he could do.
there are many other irregularities waiting to be clarified. I also want to let
you know that Baba was willing to leave Puttaparthi on 28th November 1999 for
Bangalore for a heart treatment but he didn’t because of the internet story
about it. This is known to me from the police inspector who blamed me for having
brought the internet pages to Puttaparthi. I have a good friend in Puttaparthi
who is a shop keeper, and he had already told me that in November 1999 Baba had
two heart attacks and went for treatment to Bangalore. He also said that most of
the people who know about it don’t believe that Sai Baba will survive the next
Trustees are very concerned and alarmed about the internet.
I want to let you know (in case you do not) that Sathya Sai Baba was not born in
Puttaparthi but in Karnatakka-Nagepalle village near Puttaparthi. Baba’s
mother came from this place and according to tradition she has to deliver the
child where she comes from. I know this from a person who was born in
Puttaparthi and lives there for over forty years. The villager said it is an
open secret, everyone knows it but is fearful to say it. You see, from the very
beginning Baba and his followers were lying.
study the statement Krishna, a friend of Sai Baba’s youth, made to Erlendur
Haraldsson. Never was a devotee so close to Sai Baba for such a long time as
Krishna. He spent twenty-four hours a day with Sai Baba for some time. This was
almost sixty years ago. Eventually Krishna left Sai Baba and went to Hydrabad.
In an interview with Haraldsson, Krishna said that even in those days Sai Baba
was more like a politician or chieftain of a feudal system. Krishna also said
“Whatever Baba may have, one thing he has not, and this is compassion”.
hope that this nightmare comes to an end and I hope that by the Grace of the
Almighty, all people round the globe may know about the misdeeds of Sai Baba, a
mighty demon who came in the guise of a spurious saint, only interested in
self-glorification, name and fame.
is a master - of deception.
Yours sincerely, Jens and Gurprit Sethi
Magazine ‘Sokaren’ (The Seeker) - 10th January 2000
: Feature article - with full front page photograph of Sai Baba
THE SAKE OF TRUTH - CONNIE LARSSON’S STORY
SWAMI WHO DECEIVED A WHOLE WORLD
Larsson (a Swedish film star) has been very close to Sai Baba. Today Conny runs
a home for young abusers and criminals near Valdemarsvik, a small town on the
coast of the Baltic Sea in Sweden.
I went to his ashram in Puttaparthi. There Sai Baba walked up to me and said
“So you have arrived now”. Later I was invited to Sai Baba for talks almost
every day. He kissed my cheek and was physically very close to me. That didn’t
worry me; even in Sweden we sometimes do like that.
But then he touched my trousers between my legs and started to massage my penis.
“Don’t be afraid” he said “This is a divine touch”. He took out my
penis and touched it, and I touched his penis. He explained that my kundalini
was to be changed.
Because he was God, I let it happen. I became a kind of favourite to him. I had
frequent private talks with Sai Baba.
We were always very close physically. He never came that close to women. He is
interested in boys and men from the age of eight up to thirty.
When you become thirty you are no longer interesting.
Larsson became one of the movement’s spiritual leaders in Sweden. In 1983
there were rumours that Sai Baba was cheating with his materialisations and that
he had sexual relations with young boys. Conny couldn’t believe that this was
But in 1986 I finally understood that he was doing the same things to other boys
that he had done to me many years ago. I got to know the boys and asked them
questions. They all told me the same story. The swami had oral sex with them, of
whom many were heterosexual (sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex).
The explanation was always that he was going to change their kundalini.
You wonder whether women don’t have the kundalini power.
also became witness to Sai Baba’s cheating with materialisations.
I decided never to tell anybody about this. I thought he tested my faith in him.
felt worse and worse about what he had found out. Sai Baba had been the centre
of his whole life for so long.
In January 1999 I got in touch with a Swedish boy, who had six interviews with
the swami. I noticed that the boy was shaken. He told me about the same things
that had happened to me. It was about masturbation - the swami opened the
boy’s trousers and started to masturbate him. The boy withdrew but the swami
insisted. Afterwards the boy turned to a medical doctor for help, but because of
his age the doctor had never been exposed to the swami’s improper advances, so
he told the boy he must have misunderstood the situation.
During the last interview the boy had with the swami, the boy’s mother was
present. She had come to take her two sons home with her. She said “I saw how
Sai Baba took things out from behind the cushion and then ‘manifested’ them
‘miraculously’. Then everything crashed for me”. The boy left the ashram
completely broken hearted.
According to the latest information from India the shop is found where Sai Baba
buys the things he ‘materialises’. It’s a shop in Hyderabad.
Some of us who have received gold things and ‘diamonds’ from Sai Baba have
had them examined by experts, and been told they are all junk pieces and not
gold; the ‘diamonds’ are zircons and stained glass.
Sweden the Gimle school, which was grounded in Sai Baba’s philosophy, has been
closed because of Baba’s sexual actions. And Conny Larsson has stopped a movie
about his life, in which Sai Baba’s importance to him was the core.
points out that there are leaders in the movement who have known for a long time
what the swami does with boys and young men. They say it is ‘divine’. There
are also leaders who know about the cheating with miracles, and protect him.
There are strong interests behind Sai Baba and his reputation to be an avatar.
effects have these unveilings had on Conny? He says he’s had to change his
concept of God.
Now I believe in God inside me, and in all human beings.
I feel tired, and have compassion for all who have believed in Sai Baba and been
duped. But at the same time I wish to thank all the Sai friends for our moments
together at satsangs, camps and courses, where we generated love and truth
in spite of the illusion we in good faith, all lived in.
Larsson is currently touring many countries at his own expense, presenting his
truth about Sai Baba. He is prepared to travel, and speak wherever and whenever
he is invited to do so.
: A Regional Meeting.
: LETTER TO MEMBERS ABOUT WINDING UP
ORGANISATION IN SWEDEN
you know, some of our young boys have testified that Sai Baba has molested them
sexually. It is a matter of serious sexual abuse; among other things oral sex.
it has turned out, that the materialisation of vibhuti, rings etc is a bluff. It
is only usual magic, built of sleight of hand.
scale economical frauds and misuse of donated means exisits in Prashanthi
Nilayam. There are bad conditions in the hospital and the water project is
uncompleted and full of problems.
are supported by serious investigations and personal testimonies, about which
can be read on internet.
Yard and other police organisations are making investigations of other crimes.
The information about what is going on is of that kind.
cannot hide behind the statement ‘we did not know’. All in the Swedish
are hard words, that hurt us all who have Baba in our hearts. But since in the
organisation there have been attempts to cover up, tone down and lessen what has
happened and still happens, we consider it necessary to be very clear and
unambiguous in the formulation.
everyone is free to keep having Baba as his/her spiritual guide and personal
image of God, in spite of what has come out. But is it possible for the Sai
organisation in Sweden to remain?
answer is : For decency’s sake, no.
What can we say to the person who comes to the organisation to get
information about Baba?
What kind of message will the organisation give on its homesite on
Can one continue to sell books, which we know describe false facts?
What can one tell the person, who has perhaps put his savings on a
journey to Baba, and then comes home telling that Baba has molested his son, and
they have seen things that make them doubt the authenticity of the
materialisations, and they have heard rumours of economical irregularities?
we answer with “Well, we already knew. It has been known for years” ???
who through ‘advertising’ Baba, entices others into going there or donating
money, might have made himself guilty of the crime of encouraging criminality.
what will the leaders of the organisation say on the day, when the press or
police ring the door bell and want to know?
they say “Of course we knew, but since we have not personally had anything but
good experiences of Baba, we did not feel that we needed to bother” ???
dear friends, let us instead, through a forceful dissasociation, send the
message through the Sai heirarchy to Sai Baba himself.
is what we have learnt and we cannot accept it! Stop the sexual violations
immediately, give up the bluff materialisations and get competent and honest
persons to run the activities.
the unsatisfactory state of things stops through voluntary action, it may be
possible to save the good parts. Otherwise the activity will sooner or later be
broken down more violently through other measures from international police,
press, international service organisations etc. Then all the good which exists
will disappear along with the evil. And in such a scandal, India as a nation
could be damaged.
winding up the Sai organisation in Sweden and spreading information about that
through a statement to all central coordinators and to other appropriate key
persons, we take our responsibility for the persons who have been abused and
cheated, and for those who run the risk to be abused and cheated.
action will likely result in other people in other countries start acting, and
taking their responsibility.
the undersigned, and many more of us, hereby demand that the president of the
Sathya Sai Organisation in Sweden calls an extra annual meeting at once, where
the decision to discontinue the association can be made in a correct way.
the meeting comes to the decision that the association should not be
discontinued, a restructuring and complementary elections to the coordinating
committee has to be made, since some of the members will leave the organisation
and whole centres will discontinue. Likewise a new treasurer and a new auditor
has to be elected.
is a tragic process for everybody. But the work on our spiritual growth does not
stop with Baba, and some of us have already discussed the forms for continued
meetings for ex-devotees, where meditation and study circles, retreats and
summer celebrations can be held.
with, or without Baba, together or in different groups : Life goes on.
: KIDNEY ROBBERY IN SATHYA SAI
SUPER SPECIALITY HOSPITAL 12th April 1997
the SSH and Mr Balaji (son of Mr Trimakababa Rao) who donated one of his
kidneys for his father. After transplant surgery, the transplanted kidney was
declared non-functional, due to vascular occulation.
sister then offered one of her kidneys. In the meantime Trimakababa needed
dialysis for which Balaji had to pledge their land and assets to the bank, plus
take loans from friends.
Balaji heard news of a kidney racket in Bangalore, and began to wonder if his
father was victim. He took his father home to Latur and a sonograhpy was done on
5/8/95. The transplanted kidney was not visualised, and a subsequent CT Scan of
the abdomen done on 7/8/95 had similar finding.
scans reported that only the patient’s own diseased kidneys were visualised.
his father’s death Balaji lodged a complaint with Latur police, who exhumed
the body and carried out an autopsy which revealed that no transplant had taken
: NEW ZEALAND
: SAI INSTITUTE DOCTORS - COURT ACTION
Deccan Chronicle 5/11/99
Nov 4, 1999 : Justice G Raghu Ram of the Andhra Pradesh High Court on Thursday
admitted a writ petition seeking initiation of criminal prosecution against the
doctors of Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences, Puttaparthi in
Anantapur district, alleging malpractices regarding the transplantation of a
writ petition has been filed by Balaji Triambak Rao Karavande, who has alleged
that the doctors of the institute removed a kidney from his body and did not
transplant the same to his father. He informed the court that after this
revelation, he lodged a complaint with the Latur (Maharashtra) police, who in
time, exhumed his father’s body and conducted a postmortem, which confirmed
that no kidney transplant had taken place.
alleged that the police at Puttaparthi did not register the complaint and he was
thrown out of the hospital when he confronted the doctors with the relevant
: http:/www.indian skeptic.de/html/is_v01/1-6-1.htm
: DID SATHYA SAI BABA INFLUENCE THE
JUDICIARY IN 1996?
said I need not worry about the Supreme Court case as he would see that the case
is decided in my favour, and sure enough in the next few days I heard that we
had won in the Supreme Court’.
Ex Maharaja of Sandur.
said judgement was given on 6/5/1966 by Honorable Justices K.N Wanchoo, J.C Shah
and S.M Sikri.
above statement triggered research into the judiciary process, by investigative
journalist B.Premanand, Head of India’s
Rationalist (treating reason as the basis of belief and knowledge) Movement.
This is detailed in an article on the website given above.
was found that one of the Hon. Justices met Sai Baba when the case was pending
and later the law firm of one of them was appointed lawyers of Ghorpade and his
: B. Premanand (Head of IRM)
REVIEW OF SAI BABA’S EDUCATION
ON MORAL VALUES SYSTEM
Baba’s emphasis is said to be on the development of the moral and human values
in students, which are lacking in the present system.
worth of the educational reforms can be seen only in the way in which such
reforms can transform the students admitted in random from different stratas of
society, and how education is able to transform them.
is to be noted that the admissions to Sai Baba’s institutions are on the basis
of stiff entrance tests and the final selections are made by Sai Baba himself.
Thus only the best students are selected.
in the case of White Field college (closed for 18 months in 1985 after agitation
by students and Kadugodi villagers), if Sai Baba was not able to control the
best of those students thus selected and had to close down the college, then
there is something wrong with the educational system of Sai Baba.
: OMNIPOTENCE, RESOLUTION OF PROBLEMS
are twenty three pages of critical discussion about the above specific issues.
For example, in the section dealing with contradictions.
In his discourse, when Sai Baba enters into the specific, into the
particular, or into something that is not usual to him, there we note the
most clear contrasts and incongruities for an ‘omniscient and omnipotent’
Two thousand years ago, in a region called Palestine, in the village of Nazareth
lived Mary and Joseph. It was winter. (...) It was the night between 24 and 25
December. Mary gave to the light the child between midnight and one. There was
not any comfort to make more comfortable that birth.
Christmas falls in the month of March, not in December. Since it is very cold in
December and people are confined to their homes, they use this time to celebrate
Christmas. Actually, Jesus was born in the month of March.
Christmas 1998 discourse
- (Ed’s note)
Some say he was born on the 15th September. But, he was born at 3:15am on
December 28th, 1980 years ago (the current year was 1979)
SSS Vol XI Chap 3
: SAI BABA ON JESUS
In the beginning even Romans were Jews, not Christians. It is only after the
advent of Jesus that the term Christians came into use. He (Jesus) said that he
was “Persona” meaning that he was the spark of Divine. This has been
translated by the British as ‘Person’ which has been termed ‘Purusha’ by
Bharatiyas (Indians). Therefore ‘Purusha’ or ‘Persona’ has originated
from Roman language.
November 1998 discourse.
could it mean ‘In the beginning even Romans were Jews’ ?
they were not Jewish as an ethnic group, nor by their religion.
Sai Baba derives the sanskrit word ‘purusha’.
necessary to remark that :
sanskrit is more ancient than latin,
therefore ‘purusha’ cannot derive from ‘persona’
etymology of ‘persona’ : from the latin persona (= mask, then character),
maybe from the greek ‘prosopon’ (=mask) through the estruscan ‘phersu’.
The etruscan phersu is perhaps related to Persephone. Among the derivatives :
character, personal, personality, personify. An interesting etymology of persona
is from ‘per’ and ‘sonare’ (= to sound through) referring to the
theatrical wooden mask in which the mouth was made to strengthen the sound of
: STUDY OF SB’S CLAIMS ~
RAISING OF THE DEAD
HEALINGS AND RESCUES
FULFILLMENT OF ANCIENT PROPHECIES
is more than one hundred pages of in depth study of Sai Baba’s claims by B.
includes accounts by John Hislop, VK Gokak, V Kanu, Howard Murphet, Mrs
Radhakrishna, Dr Haraldsson, Dr Sandweiss, Dr Vaz, Harish Khanna, Dr Krishna
Rau, Dr Rajagopalan, David Lane.
Baba’s statements/versus accurate verbatim reporting and/or historical
accounts about Winston Churchill, Ramsay Macdonald, Thomas Edison, Einstein,
Alexander the Great, Jesus of Nazareth, the New Testament, the dating of
Jesus’ birth, dual statements about the star of Bethlehem, the religious
practices of Judea, Jesus’ crucifixion, dual statements on Judas Iscariot’s
name, Indian classical music, Physical sciences, Patent law, etc., etc., etc.
scholars are quoted, and research accounts arguing claims given.
comments that the point of the section on theology is not to dispute Sai
Baba’s divinity, but the evidence he presents for this claim.
adds that those familiar with the complete passages from which the excerpts are
taken, will agree that Sai Baba is referring to the Scriptures to support his
claims. The point in including these passages, and the corresponding analysis by
scholars is to dispute his accuracy in reading and quoting the Christian Bible;
not in his claimed first-hand knowledge of the events reported therein, or his
interpretation of biblical passages.
who agree with Sai Baba’s renderings, and disagree with the scholars’
interpretations will no doubt have an explanation for why passages referred to
by Sai Baba cannot be located, or why fifty generations of biblical scholars
have a different interpretation than Sai Baba of the passages that are there.
point in presenting this material is merely to show that there are such
: This study is revealing and illuminating.
: JOURNEY TO SB AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
is a large, comprehensive site recounting the unreal expectations nurtured by
the Sai Baba propaganda machine, and the subsequent realisation of their
unreality, by a ‘rational and scientific’ Italian called Paul Holbach.
Impossible to create a synopsis but well worth reading. It is clearly thought
out and profound. Paul’s website deals with other specific issues such as Sai
Baba’s inaccuracies in discourse, by giving strong research presentation.
: David has had a number of telephone conversations with Paul and considers him
a serious and clear thinking researcher who has broken through the facade
surrounding Sai Baba.
: Dr Abraham T. Kovoor
: DR BHAGAVANTHAM AND SATHYA SAI BABA
was invited to give a lecture at the Indian Institute of Technology at Guindy.
During a conversation before the lecture one of the professors at the institute
told me that the majority of youths who take to the study of science and
technology do so not because they have any scientific attitude or aptitude, but
just because such a course helps them to get lucrative jobs.
the reason why some of the eminent scientists of India have given up their
science, and become devotees of godmen of that country is because they have
found that they can make more money by being in collusive devotion to such
hoaxers than by continuing scientific pursuits.
few months ago the editor of a
mass-circulating weekly of India wrote me a letter saying that the Editorial
Board of his weekly had decided to publish a symposium on ‘Sathya
Sai Baba - Is he an incarnation of God, or a Charlatan?’ and wanted me to
be the first contributor to the series.
article was serialised in three issues. It was then followed by two articles
countering my thesis by Dr S Bhagavantham M.Sc, D.Sc, Ph.D, a former scientific
adviser to the Government of India.
Bhagavantham started his article by saying that in his youth he was a
rationalist like me, but after witnessing some of the miracles of Sai Baba, he
had to give up his rationalism. He then began to describe numerous
‘miracles’ said to have been performed by Sai Baba in various places. There
was no mention in either of the two articles of anyone having conducted
investigations to establish that they were all genuine miracles and not
conjurer’s tricks. The two articles appeared to be clear examples of how
unscientific even a good scientist can become if he is a victim of religio-manic
neurosis or avarice for lucre.
all the miracle stories mentioned, there was only one that was amenable to
investigation. I quote that story below.
The wonderful experience, some years ago, of a world famous watch manufacturer
of Japan, while he was on tour in India, was awe-inspiring. After completing the
Seiko series of watches he made a model of a more superior type, and kept it in
his safe for further tests. While touring India he paid a visit to Sai Baba’s
abode just out of curiousity. On seeing the Japanese gentleman among the
devotees Sai Baba materialised a small parcel from the air and gave it to him.
On opening the parcel he was astonished to see the same watch that was kept in
When he saw along with the watch, the silk ribbon and label with the new name of
the watch and the price marked on it, all his doubts about the divine powers of
Sai Baba simply melted away. He fell prostrate at Sai Baba’s feet and
worshipped him, and since then has been an ardent devotee.
On his return to Japan, he was shocked to see that the watch he had kept in his
safe was not there. What his personal secretary told him was even more
startling. The secretary said that a divine-looking person with bushy hair
walked into the office one day, opened the safe and walked away with the watch.
Dr Bhagavantham, who is the holder of coveted qualifications in science, think
that a thesis of this nature - to
prove the miraculous powers of a man - by any scientist, will be accepted by an
academic body of scientists if it is not backed by scientific investigations and
Dr Bhagavantham was reluctant to test the veracity of his godman’s miraculous
powers, I decided to do it myself. With this aim in view I wrote the following
letter to him :
read your story about a Japanese watch manufacturer getting his own watch that
was kept in a safe in Japan, materialised in India from air by Sai Baba. My
scientific attitude does not permit me to accept this fantastic story as true
without verification. My doubt is enhanced by the reported statement by his
personal secretary. The first reaction of a responsible secretary when a
stranger walks into the office and opens the safe, would be to raise the alarm
and to summon the police. As I feel it is unscientific even for a scientist to
believe this type of story without verification, I request you to kindly let me
know the name and address of this Japanese so that I may verify the truth about
it. Your failure to help me to conduct this investigation by withholding this
information, will lead me to suspect your sincerity and honesty, and to discard
all that you have said about Sathya Sai Baba as utter falsehood, deliberately
propagated with ulterior motive and vested interest.
Yours in search of Truth,
Abraham T Kovoor.
there was no response from Dr Bhagavantham after two months, I decided to pursue
the matter myself. The Japanese Embassy in Sri Lanka provided me with the name
and address of the proprietor of Seiko, the watch manufacturing firm.
my letter dated 30/10/73 to Mr Shoji Hattori, president of K Hattori & Co
Ltd, the manufacturers of Seiko watches, I reproduced Dr Bhagavantham’s story
about the miracle and requested him to provide me with the answers to the
1. Did you or any partners of yours visit Sathya Sai Baba of India at any time?
2. Did Sai Baba materialise a watch from air and present it to you or your
3. Did your personal secretary tell you or any of your partners that a stranger
opened the safe and walked away with a watch?
4. Are you or any of your partners a devotee of Sai Baba?
the benefit of numerous innocent devotees of godmen of India I reproduce below
Mr Hattori’s reply. This I do with the sincere hope that they will be sensible
enough to realise the truth that these charlatans who go about in the garb of
holy men, have numerous agents like Dr Bhagavantham everywhere, working in
collusion to propagate the huge hoax and profit materially.
- JAPAN (address given) 8/11/73
you for your letter of October 30th. I can appreciate your interest in
conducting scientific research of paranormal claims, but I am in no way able to
further your knowledge as regards the man mentioned in your letter, Mr Sai Baba.
Neither I nor any members of my staff have ever made the acquaintance of this
individual. I am sure that these reports are completely unfounded. I must
therefore reply in the negative to all four of your questions concerning this
Sgd. Shoji Hattori,
K Hattori & Co Ltd.
receipt of this letter I wrote to Dr Bhagavantham, enclosing a photostat copy of
Mr Shoji Hattori’s letter, and said
If Mr Shoji Hattori is not the person concerned in your story, please let me
know about it, and provide me with the correct name and address. Absence of any
reply from you for this letter also, will confirm my firm belief that you are an
agent for Sathya Sai Baba, doing propaganda for him with ulterior motive and
Yours in search of truth,
there has been no reply, it confirms my belief that Dr Bhagavantham is in
collusion with Sai Baba.
: Dale Beyerstein, University of British Columbia, Vancouver BC Canada
In reply to a letter sent to him from
Dr Elwndur Haraldsson,
University of Iceland - October 1985.
I certainly agree with the point you make at the end of your book that in the
absence of agreement for controlled testing of claimed paranormal powers, we
must make rough and ready judgements analogous (similar in certain respects)
with judgements made in court house contexts. Analogous but not identical for
these sorts of grounds the evidence seems overwhelming against taking the
materialisation claims seriously.
Baba is caught out in self-puffery in so many instances - allowing omniscience
claims when his language abilities are only average, and so on. And not only
allowing them, but making them himself. And he speaks so loosely in so many ways
that his denials that he uses sleight of hand cannot be given any real weight.
The overwhelming evidence - given the film analysis, the loose anecdotal nature
of the claims etc all point so definitely in this direction.
the widespread claims of sexual hanky panky and the evidence of association with
the gold business - although not conclusive - must be seriously entered into the
the question you asked : ‘Sam Dalal’ is a name given by James Randi. Randi
in a phone conversation said that Sai Baba ‘materialised’ a Seiko watch for
a Seiko watch company executive visiting India. Sam Dalal asked for the serial
number from the executive as I understood it, and got it. The number was then
sent back to Japan for tracing. Turns out the number was a watch which was to
have been stored in a warehouse not far from the site where the
‘materialisation’ took place.
Premanand (IRM) mentions Kasturi
deleted the Seiko reference from his book after the investigation.(.....).
so this sad document comes to it’s conclusion. For each story listed there are
dozens of a similar nature, information concerning every aspect of the Sai Baba
cult. Hundreds of pages, revealing the fortress of lies supporting this
enormous, global house of cards.
may choose to believe or disbelieve the above. That is your choice. However, it
is now a choice being made from a position of awareness of a situation that
may still be asking yourself - but ... is he divine?
is not by what a man says,
that he be judged,
but by what he does.
Paedophile activity ....... the action of divinity??
Magician’s tricks ........ the action of
Listen to your own still small voice within, before you decide.
you have read thus far, it is possible that you are totally devastated.
grief any cult’s unveiling causes honest spiritual seekers, is monumental. To
find that the path, which took one away from family, friends and loved ones is
only a mirage.... To find oneself deceived, betrayed; to have one’s trust
broken.... To find the love promised is conditional and those one thought were
‘family’, now turn away with cries of ‘Judas!’....
a devastation of self worth, and seemingly a terrible waste of time. But of
course it is not. One thing is self evident. All here on the planet are having
experience, and the consequence of experience - especially spiritual experience
- is wisdom, and freedom from dependency.
a cult is like experiencing a death of a loved one. There is a grieving process
which will take time. Time to process the feelings of confusion, loss, guilt,
disillusionment, anger, and lack of trust engendered.
a little while I felt very angry, to think my long held love of God the Creator
had been exploited in this way - ‘detoured’ as it were, along a pathway that
I hadn’t consciously asked for; enticing me into giving my power away to a
master of deception.
this feeling didn’t last for long, I was soon able to accept that the whole
experience was one I chose, and my grief and anger - also part of the
time the negative feelings were replaced with a sense of freedom, and the joy of
returning to the real world.
gift in all of the above, was a profound realisation that for me the ‘age of
the guru’ is dead. No longer willing to give my trust to outer teachers, I now
at last, follow the message all true spiritual masters have given down the long
halls of time - by seeking within, the kingdom of heaven.
conclusion, I can tell you from our own experience, the pain you suffer will
heal. There is life after Sai Baba,
and as you claim back your own power, you will be enriched, and find the pathway
now illuminated, wonderful.
wish you a fulfilling and self realising journey.
‘manifested’ a ‘sacred lingam’ for me and told me “It’s power
is without limit through time and space!!”
that water run over it would access and then hold the lingam’s great healing
a time, in good faith I shared ‘lingam water’ with people all over the
I never experienced for myself, or received feedback from others - any positive
result from drinking it.
the contrary, the major feedback was that in fact it quickly went mouldy.
intent that there would be healing experienced, in those who drank this
water-of-illusion, was insufficient to empower it beyond a ‘feel good’
the Findings, I stopped sending lingam water, and returned the lingam to India.
Every experience of life is an expression of Life.